“redemption arcs only work if the person isn’t a villain!”
“If you expect me to forgive-”
Forgiveness is a possible (but not required) effect of redemption. It is not the cause of redemption. Forgiving is not synonymous with redeeming. People can redeem themselves by becoming better people with or without the forgiveness of others. Just as people can forgive someone who has yet to redeem themselves.
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